tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4246194063827858977.post6111483759369809748..comments2024-03-16T07:06:34.951+00:00Comments on Shed Wars: Salute 17 - My haul and observations Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4246194063827858977.post-25953371136077468802017-05-01T14:29:51.092+01:002017-05-01T14:29:51.092+01:00A well balanced review. Thank you. I agree about t...A well balanced review. Thank you. I agree about the back packs and as I also take one to shows I always carry it in hand and this year I was able, at Salute to do most of my buying straight off then deposit in the car close by. Thereby negating carrying a lead lump or hitting people with it on my shoulder. Many of the smaller games, although much effort had been expended, seemed to advertise new rules or be of a non historical vent, so was of little interest to me. The Battlegroup Torbruk game had some nice vignettes and has also prompted me to look into an alternative to their hessian sheet for a large desert game I am putting on soon.Stephen Tunmorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09717939932684315522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4246194063827858977.post-47812418943932281672017-04-27T07:10:31.826+01:002017-04-27T07:10:31.826+01:00Sadly I think your first comment is spot on Eric. ...Sadly I think your first comment is spot on Eric. The hobby is changing and we old hands are left wondering where it went. But, life goes forward, never backward, so no point worrying about what we can't change. We continue on our own way, enjoying our hobby in our way and leave others to do likewise.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06985725848702292911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4246194063827858977.post-30879162551809345192017-04-26T11:49:27.857+01:002017-04-26T11:49:27.857+01:00I like your idea of an 'Off Peak' ticket. ...I like your idea of an 'Off Peak' ticket. I'm a full day attendee but I'm sure there are plenty who would jump at the chance of a ha;f day ticket...it would go so way to offsetting the extortionate price of parking! BigLeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00960213980906190335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4246194063827858977.post-76636844036323467722017-04-26T06:50:35.666+01:002017-04-26T06:50:35.666+01:00You would hope that in this day and age, the backp...You would hope that in this day and age, the backpack thing was just a hangover joke from years ago, but my wife got side swiped by one at York earlier this year! <br /><br />Eric, some good observations (and a nice balanced haul). I have a new wargame store open by me on the high street, it has a smaller historical section compared to anything else, everything is 28mm and there is a lot of young blood supporting sales and also playing on the store game tables. All of this at the parochial level seems to support what you are seeing at our national show.<br /><br />Again, thanks for all the coverage you have given the show - it has been enjoyable to 'consume'.Normhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05031444717952755557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4246194063827858977.post-33376461924556241352017-04-25T21:57:13.730+01:002017-04-25T21:57:13.730+01:00"a very large carrier bag"? How could yo..."a very large carrier bag"? How could you possibly manage at Salute without a huge backpack to piss off everyone around you at trade stands?Jeremy Ramseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12250118143994161913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4246194063827858977.post-76069131615983925112017-04-25T21:42:20.537+01:002017-04-25T21:42:20.537+01:00Pretty sure costs for those putting on games have ...Pretty sure costs for those putting on games have never been covered in the UK. Some games get ''sponsored'' so that the sponsor covers most of the effort free figures etc etc. Most shows seem to be suffering post lunchtime death and this only seems to be getting worse . I would 100% advocate half price tickets after 2pm . Traders work their nuts off getting ready for a show it would be nice to see trade show organisers improvising , with the online world and ways it affects shopping habits trade shows are still run exactly as their were in the 80's . Rolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01782410661530430811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4246194063827858977.post-22905778490868895132017-04-25T19:49:33.471+01:002017-04-25T19:49:33.471+01:00I really enjoyed Salute this year more than a few ...I really enjoyed Salute this year more than a few years ago. However I agree and disagree equally with some of your observations. Yes there seems to be a shift away from the massive large march to the sound of the drums games and more skirmish types but some of these are so well put together they are more visually and tactically agreeable than some bogged down large scale game that takes hundreds of hours and pounds to put together. The notice of more youngsters attending the show is good as hopefully these with be the future of our hobby and I agree that some of the table were lacking in appeal compared to some of the German and US shows. Overall I dont really notice the crowds, the only issue I had was at the TTCombat stand as the alleys between the stands were quite narrow and packed with faoming gamers splurging the cash.Carl https://www.blogger.com/profile/16276342560412590861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4246194063827858977.post-20155138543590654042017-04-25T18:25:41.962+01:002017-04-25T18:25:41.962+01:00Good point Kecv, shows are non existent in New Zea...Good point Kecv, shows are non existent in New Zealand, going to Salute is a dream come true.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14716127570043327882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4246194063827858977.post-45719972791410242432017-04-25T14:38:47.574+01:002017-04-25T14:38:47.574+01:00Hi Eric,
This may be erronious of me- though: Way ...Hi Eric,<br />This may be erronious of me- though: Way back in 1993 I took up three tables at Parramatta Town Hall at a cost of $300 for a two day weekend Wargame Show...by Sunday evening I had made $1000 profit for the sale of my Scratch Built models and terrain. Set up was on a Friday night, I had a 4x4 vehicle at the time and could park right besides the hall for unloading. Eric- I'm sure you are well aware that it is a pretty big commitment to take a Demonstartion/Participation Game to a venue- especially when you have largish Terrain Boards and complex scenic items such as trees, walls, buildings, ships and boats, castles etc...as an incentive to the Participants of showing a Private Game there certainly needs to be some form of 'Carrot' to participate when your offering your services for free....Perhaps, free- entry to the event, food and drink vouchers etc....but, It is the JOY of doing it that is the real boon...I'd put on a demonstration game tomorrow if I had the chance- completly FREE, and I'd be greatful if the organizers gave me a complimentary cup of coffee- and that would be that ( no other freebies)...we have only two shows a year here - Sydney MOAB and Canberra CANCON....Parramatta wound up decades ago...we are otherwise starved of shows...some advice to the attendees of SALUTE2017....be VERY Greatful for what you have. Cheers. KEV.KEV. Robertson.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03057624752614080866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4246194063827858977.post-71867410262592513862017-04-25T14:32:18.144+01:002017-04-25T14:32:18.144+01:00I agree with your comments about the show. Althoug...I agree with your comments about the show. Although the standard of demo games was good, there were very few stand-out games this year compared to previous years. I did not feel particularly 'inspired' this year (good for my wallet), and I had hoped for a stronger Russian Civil War theme than was achieved.<br />Mark (AKA Snowydog)Snowydoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08550507574992345044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4246194063827858977.post-17580079098214421252017-04-25T13:27:11.020+01:002017-04-25T13:27:11.020+01:00Unfortunately, I couldn't make it to Salute 17...Unfortunately, I couldn't make it to Salute 17 :(<br /><br />I am, therefore, very interested to read your comments Eric. I think the 'off-peak' ticket is a splendid idea as are the 'Donalds'!colinmnashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14342098641859314933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4246194063827858977.post-86916203977413671422017-04-25T12:24:29.635+01:002017-04-25T12:24:29.635+01:00Good idea about the "Oscars" - maybe the...Good idea about the "Oscars" - maybe the "Donalds"?<br /><br />I was a bit disappointed with the tables this year - very few standout non-company-sponsored games compared to previous years.TamsinPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11759947520907448060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4246194063827858977.post-51225600191322277892017-04-25T12:14:29.964+01:002017-04-25T12:14:29.964+01:00There seems to be differences of opinion on how cr...There seems to be differences of opinion on how crowded it was. I arrived at 11.15 and thought it was too crowded to see much. As regards blog hits I was reading someone else's blog recently and he thought that there was more wargames traffic on Facebook, as opposed to blogs of late. This is because most people now just post pictures but I prefer, as here, some considered writing!legatus hedliushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17078980742683576345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4246194063827858977.post-91848182261015174342017-04-25T12:12:47.284+01:002017-04-25T12:12:47.284+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4246194063827858977.post-36568840037886867732017-04-25T12:10:45.857+01:002017-04-25T12:10:45.857+01:00An interesting insight into your experience of SAL...An interesting insight into your experience of SALUTE. It is somewhat different from my own, but I enjoyed reading your comments and thinking about them in relationship to my own.<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />BobRobert (Bob) Corderyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13109130990434792266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4246194063827858977.post-88565027068609855382017-04-25T12:07:17.040+01:002017-04-25T12:07:17.040+01:00Definitely a lot of SF/fantasy games and it seems ...Definitely a lot of SF/fantasy games and it seems to be missing the really big jaw dropping games that I remember from.a few years ago:I think you may well be right about the cost and risk of bringing along all the figures and scenery needed for that. There were some really interesting small games though. There also seems to be a move to games being used as a vehicle to promote a new games system...not necessarily a bad thing as it gives us a chance to try before we buy (who am I kidding...i just buy anyway!!)alastairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15012644168758721189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4246194063827858977.post-80541270583344622182017-04-25T11:41:46.166+01:002017-04-25T11:41:46.166+01:00A good overall view of the show I think. I certain...A good overall view of the show I think. I certainly felt that there were more small scale sci-fi and fantasy games on show this year, which personally I have no interest in. As I was part of a demo game, my time to walk the show was limited, but I found few games of interest to me, but then looking at pics of the show, I certainly missed quite a few.<br /><br />Even though the show was busy, it didn't seem as crowded as last year, due to the increased floor space for the visitors, which is a good thing IMHO. I went walkabout around 1.00pm and had no trouble getting a good view of most games and traders. It seemed to be a natural lunchbreak time which may have helped.Steve J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12143308117853983963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4246194063827858977.post-90480205198726709522017-04-25T10:48:13.814+01:002017-04-25T10:48:13.814+01:00I like the idea of a games "oscars" Eric...I like the idea of a games "oscars" Eric. This would I think drive standards higher at this show. I enjoyed Salute this year and spent a fortune but didn't get to roll any dice at all which I think is a shame and something that needs to be addressed next year!Da Gobbohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09482323500538272232noreply@blogger.com